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Civil 3D – Google Earth export

image Everything in the world seems to point into Google Earth.  The problem is that we receive GE KML files coming and going.  Client’s send them to us, we send them to crews, we send them to clients and contractors.  Generally these get sent to everyone. 

I found that everyone seems to have converters for Google Map to Google Earth, Excel to GE, ESRI SHP to GE, you name it.  I bet my wife has something that will export one of her Facebook games to GE.

I figured there were numerous options when my VP asked for something to export a KML file to ascii LAT/LON, or even to UTM/SP Grid.  I think he’ll take it any way he can get it.  I know he’s looking at ME to write it in .NET, but my working with Tekni takes all my personal time, so I need to head this off quickly.

“You know it will cost you more for me to code and debug it, than if we outsourced it. “ I said, “But I know a guy  who’ll do it for next to nothing”.  Yeah… the look I was getting said he wasn’t too hip on paying anything beyond my salary.   “Ok ok, let me go online and try to find something, then we’ll talk about outsourcing”.

After searching the wrong keywords (google and Excel) for half an hour, I found this under “KML to CSV”: 

http://freegeographytools.com/2009/online-kml-to-shapefile-converter

These folks have a slough of data outputs.  You can Import the file, or paste the KML string.  It’s online PHP, and convenient.  The output formatting is a bit caste,  but very little rework will be needed.  It’s free, and there are many options, as well as other programs. 

It got me off the hook, and it might help you.

As for using GE with Civil, I still have not seen the scaling fix yet.

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February 15, 2010 Posted by | AutoCAD Civil 3D | , , , , , | Leave a comment

Civil 3D – Google Earth v5 problems

8/14/2009

image If you have tried installing Google Earth 5 recently, you may have run into some problem.  I did, and it led me on a wild goose chase that ended at the ‘Being Civil’ blog.  The article noted scaling problems when inserting images via the Civil 3D Google Image link.

The Being Civil Blog image article

The article explains that the current download version (5.0.11733.9347) is bugged, but points to a previous version (5.0.11337.1968) and says that it should work properly.

I did a Google search for “Google Earth 5.0.11337.1968“ and got numerous results.  Be Aware!!! Most still downloaded from the Google Earth site current release.

I found the Google release url…  Google Earth 5.0 (5.0.11337.1968) from Google

After installing I confirmed the version number; I got the same results!

Time for a major version change

I found a link on Google to the previous Major revision: 4.3…Google Earth 4.3 (4.3.7284.3916) from Google (Later I found a message from Jason Hickey discussing the merits of 4.3)

I installed it, and verified the version number; uuuh same result

Test Bed C3D 09 and GE 4.3

I ambushed one of my associates, who has been using Google 4.3 with Hypack.  I had him mock up the same 2 overlapping images, and link them into Civil 09.  Exact same result.

More Research

I went shopping to find out what gives.  Discussion groups were my next stop.  I found a discussion that referred to the ‘Being Civil’ blog (again), with a different article from February.  It discussed surfacing, and after GE 4.2 the surfacing import was altered, and a reduced amount of data being exported to C3D.  They said if this is a problem, we should go back to 4.2.  Well, I’ve tried all the other versions, why not 4.2.  I know it’s not a surfacing error, but maybe they are linked.  They were kind enough to provide a link:

Google Earth 4.2 (4.2.0205) from filehippo  BTW….The same site has links to ALL the versions!

No Joy!! 

I did the same overlap test at a different region in Vegas and even worse results.

Conclusions

I wish I had some conclusions. I can’t say what the answer is.  It just does not work properly.

All things said, I have not been keeping up with the “Google Earth gotta have latest version” push.  It’s a nice tool, but I don’t use it every day.  I cannot say when things went wrong, but I don’t remember a problem in 2008.  2009 was a blur, and all I did was study for Certifications.

I might be inclined to blame my poor abused machine, but my associate received the same results from a different version of both Civil and Google. 

If you are having the same trouble, please post here so I can determine a pattern.  Then maybe we can get Justin and Jason will to do a little more research for us.

August 14, 2009 Posted by | 2010, AutoCAD Civil 3D, Bug Report | , , , , , , , | 3 Comments

Google Earth Update problem?

A recent discusion group post stated that after upgrading to the newer version of Google Earth, the poster could no longer import surfaces.  I wish I could test this, but I’m not neccessarily inclined to upgrade now.  If anyone has more information, please comment.

October 27, 2008 Posted by | AutoCAD Civil 3D | , , , , , | 3 Comments